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Quote:“There’s no reason to blow up your roster. This is still our window, the next couple of years. James (Harden) and Russell (Westbrook) are in their early 30s. We’re not blowing up anything,” Fertitta said, per Jonathan Feigen of The Houston Chronicle (Twitter link). “We plan on contending. … We’re going to do whatever we have to do to win.”


(3 hours ago)Kammrath Wrote: https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/10/fert...oster.html


Quote:“There’s no reason to blow up your roster. This is still our window, the next couple of years. James (Harden) and Russell (Westbrook) are in their early 30s. We’re not blowing up anything,” Fertitta said, per Jonathan Feigen of The Houston Chronicle (Twitter link). “We plan on contending. … We’re going to do whatever we have to do to win.”

Anyone who says stuff like that about Russell Westbrook is either lying to you, or lying to themselves.

(3 hours ago)Mavs2019 Wrote:
(7 hours ago)aguiar95 Wrote: Listening to the Lowe pod, AG's value around the league has fallen. Should we go for him (even though in the pod Simmons and Lowe are certain we are one of the Giannis destinations with Toronto/Miami and Milwalkee) ?
Is a Wright/Jackson/18 package realistic ?


All I heard was another solid 10 minutes of national media talking about Giannis to the Mavs. Cool

I´d try so hard to get rid of Powell+Wright right now for expiring contracts. We are the #1 FA destination.

This is not "Please Comicbook Dwight talk to us"-desperation. This is the " We are in a pandemic, All-Stars go in this line, roleplayers here, ring chasing veterans over there, and here is the VIP entrance for superstars"-party.

I like your enthusiasm, but the Mavs have to take the next step to catch up to the Lakers and Miami at this point.


I'm not saying Giannis to the Mavs is a probability, but I think it's funny that some of the people worried about losing Luka in FA are the same ones who seem scared to think big with team building. 

This is the era of the NBA we have for the foreseeable future. Players will team up through free agency, and so LA and Miami have an advantage for no other reason than because those are the two best places in our country to live, particularly during the winter months. There are a bunch of other places where players can be happy, too: NY, Boston, Chicago, GS, Houston, and yes, absolutely Dallas should be on this tier. Different individual people are going to rank these cities in different orders, but none of them is a small market, depressing place. 

Since SOME teams are ALWAYS going to build like this for the foreseeable future, becoming "super teams," then in order to WIN, you must build a roster that's equal to or greater than a "super team." This is simply a fact. Not trying to build such a roster is essentially inviting a repeat of Dirk's career, only without the three shots at a title he got, probably. 

Luka, Giannis and KP might seem like an absurd amount of talent, but in this era, it's really just the cover charge at the door, the price to get into the "contenders" club. It's where team building BEGINS, not where it ENDS. It doesn't have to be Giannis, but this team is 100% still missing something GREAT. Until they have it, all of the Josh Richardson, OPJ, Aaron Gordon "meh" guys are pointless. Luka isn't going to stick around to play on a team full of guys like that, with no flexibility. My strong feeling is that Giannis will leave Milwaukee for the same reason. 

Riley is going to build a team in Miami. Boston is about to figure things out. The Lakers already have Lebron and AD, with improvement on the way. The Clippers will probably figure things out. The Warriors have more left in them. The Nets have a chance to be amazing. 

Does anyone reading this expect Denver to win a championship with Jokic? I don't, either, and it's not about the player - he's amazing. It's because I have no doubt that Denver will screw themselves by not landing on the right plan. They're right where the Mavs were with Dirk. They don't know what to do with him. All of the teams in the previous paragraph are looking at Denver, Dallas and the other teams not listed with great players as farm teams right now.

Dallas HAS to get Giannis, or something else at or near that level, or it's game over. It is time to think BIG. This is absolutely the time for the Mavs to push their chips in for a move like that, and Luka is how they'll be taken seriously this time around. He is the franchise's ticket to the NBA inner circle. To gain respect in the NBA, you need to create a DYNASTY. Luka is that type of historical guy. Others will recognize this and find their way here to play with him if you stay flexible enough to capitalize on the right opportunities. It's the next two off seasons or never. If they aren't championship contenders when Luka signs that rookie max extension, then I think there's a decent chance that the extension will simply be a countdown to the moment Luka bounces.
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(2 hours ago)KillerLeft Wrote: Dallas HAS to get Giannis, or something else at or near that level, or it's game over.


They HAVE to add an MVP caliber player to Luka/KP? That seems incredibly extreme. I just cannot agree with that. 

I am fine with the Mavs "thinking big" (as long as they are being sober about it) but I also saw Luka's growth this year and am 100% confident he can win a championship(s) without another MVP caliber player on his team. Luka is THAT good. He needs strong role players more than he needs an MVP alongside him.
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I don't think anyone is scared to dream big. If Giannis or any other super star wants to come here, they'll come here. I think where justifiable doubt comes in is that if there is an undecided player we have some factors working against us:

-MBT have been inept at recruiting big time free agents. We can't even seem to get meetings these days.
-Dallas isn't a destination city.
-Easter conference while improved, still seems like an easier path to the finals than the Western Conference.
-Ric Carlisle might turn off some prospects. Keyword: MIGHT

Maybe the draw of Luka and KP can help overcome some or all of that, but I think a lot of us are just beaten down by the MBT failures after 2011.


(2 hours ago)Kammrath Wrote:
(2 hours ago)KillerLeft Wrote: Dallas HAS to get Giannis, or something else at or near that level, or it's game over.


They HAVE to add an MVP caliber player to Luka/KP? That seems incredibly extreme. I just cannot agree with that. 

I am fine with the Mavs "thinking big" (as long as they are being sober about it) but I also saw Luka's growth this year and am 100% confident he can win a championship(s) without another MVP caliber player on his team. Luka is THAT good. He needs strong role players more than he needs an MVP alongside him.

If he's "THAT good," then you don't sell him short. That's my whole point. He's soooo good that possibilities are about to come that never would've presented themselves to this franchise before. This is a once in the life of a franchise opportunity, and if they handle it correctly, they could stand a better chance of getting ANOTHER Luka some day in the future, when our kids are in their 40's. I'm dead serious. Teams like the Lakers, Celtics and Heat have fan bases who EXPECT greatness. Ours is like "we're very lucky, I hope we can stay under the radar and just not screw this up." I'm telling you, man, this is their chance to get on the level of those other teams, and not just over the next few years, but HISTORICALLY. F yes, Luka is "THAT good." 

I don't think the search should be limited to MVP candidates, that's just a label. I do think they need to look for players who you could envision playing in an all-star game. Players who can command a double team and know how to exploit that to hurt the defense. Players who can take the big shot when Luka is taken out of the play by the defense. Whose physical presence alone affects the game in positive ways. Difference makers. I think KP is great, and he can do some of that, but not enough of it, and not consistently enough. When KP is not depended upon to be the guy I'm talking about, then team building will start in earnest.

It is irresponsible fandom to convince yourselves that this team is a good pick at #18 and Robert Covington away from reaching contender status. Far, far from it. You are setting yourselves up for bitter remorse.
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I think you gotta get that third guy. LAL/LAC/GSW will start the year as the favorites in the West. Nuggets I think will make a big move. Rockets are a wildcard and the rest of the teams have question marks. Mavs imo could get to the top of the 2nd tier pretty quickly if they get Dipo who is a legit 2nd or 3rd best player on a very good team.
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(1 hour ago)StepBackJay Wrote: I think you gotta get that third guy. LAL/LAC/GSW will start the year as the favorites in the West. Nuggets I think will make a big move. Rockets are a wildcard and the rest of the teams have question marks. Mavs imo could get to the top of the 2nd tier pretty quickly if they get Dipo who is a legit 2nd or 3rd best player on a very good team.

I don't think he is, but he has an outside chance to be, at least. And, he gets you one step closer to the meeting that could ultimately define the future of the Dallas Mavericks. I do it, but only if Wright or Powell (or in a perfect world, both) are outgoing.


https://detroitsportsnation.com/suggeste...20/236571/

I would do this.
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Kennard would be a definite upgrade over Wright. I would probably do that just because it would be an asset upgrade and Kennard could be traded at a later time. The issue with guys like this is that it just double down on the Mavs strengths, at some point we need some guys who play defense. But I still think it would be a good use of 18 if you couldn't find a better deal.
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(1 hour ago)Hypermav Wrote: https://detroitsportsnation.com/suggeste...20/236571/

I would do this.

Sign me up as well.


(1 hour ago)Hypermav Wrote: I would do this.


Not thinking twice. Get rid of two negative assets and take a look at another young shooter. Not super high on Kennard but compared to Jackson he is a big upgrade.


Back to plan Home-Dipo...

If you do get Dipo for Wright/Boban/Jackson + 18/31 you free up 2 spots in the process. I think WCS, Lee will come back, JJB probably moves on or retires and MKG doesn't come back. Also per Cato I think Burke has a good chance at coming back.

That would give you basically 3-4? spots to add some wings, though I doubt any of them will knock our socks off. We would use those spots to try to get some guys with more defensive ability than we had last year.

Rotation:
Luka/Brunson/Burke
Dipo/Curry/FA Wing
THJ/FA Wing x 2/Lee
DFS/Maxi/FA Wing
KP/WCS/Powell


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